Besides having insane sponsors who (recent example) screamed at me, then made "amends" by saying: "I'm sorry I tried to HELP you" (niiiiiice...)
I wrote this to Orange recently (orange-papers.org)—and perhaps it bears repeating:
The concept "of myself I am nothing—the father doeth the works"—permeates the consciousness of AA members *so much* (!) that one can't take credit for anything one accomplishes—especially long-term sobriety—without some jerk giving you a 'pride goeth before a fall' vibe.
Most people I know in aa (with long-term sobriety in NYC, who got sober early, before 'making their way in the world') are:
Don't even get me started on the western god-christian thing, or Clancy-ites—who remind me of those frat boys who started screaming "Bush won twice!" (during the recount vote in Florida) at the non-partisan people hired to count hanging chads…
It's *not* just the inter-personal horror stories that render AA a threat—(because whenever human beings get together, there's bound to be some f*cked up stuff going on)—it's the concept of powerlessness taken to extreme that is the most soul-killing.
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